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 ===== Kurviger Used a Road that is actually Not Accessible ===== ===== Kurviger Used a Road that is actually Not Accessible =====
  
-There can be multiple reasons for that. Here are the most common ones.+There can be multiple reasons for that. Basically there are two types of access restrictions, permanent restrictions and temporary or conditional restrictions. When asking a machine to calculate a route, permanent restrictions are easy, it's never allowed to use the road, so Kurviger won't create a route on this road. Temporary or conditional restrictions are a lot more complicated. For example a road is closed on Sundays, Kurviger cannot know if you would like to use this road on a Sunday or not. The Kurviger website allows you to show these potentially closed roads as an overlay, so you can include these in your planning.
  
-==== Construction Sites ====+==== Regular Permanent Access Restrictions ====
  
-Construction sites are not always tagged in OSM. If the construction site is only a short-term construction site (less than 6 months), the general opinion is not to tag itIf the construction takes longer than 6 month, please go ahead and tag it[[https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:construction|See the OSM wiki for more details]].+Especially for smaller roads, there might be a missing access restriction in OSM. You should check that the access tag is set correctlyAccess restrictions can be set to ways and nodesGenerally we recommend to tag the ways. Ways also include ferries, so if a ferry is not transporting motorcycles, this can be tagged for the way of the ferry.
  
-==== Regular Access Restrictions ====+If a road is closed for motorcycles you would tag it ''motorcycle=no''. If no motor vehicles are allowed on the road you would tag it ''motor_vehicle=no''. There are many different options, most are described in the [[https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access|OSM wiki]].
  
-Especially for smaller roads, there might be a missing access restriction in OSM. You should check that the access tag is set correctly. Access restrictions can be set to ways and nodes+=== Construction Sites === 
- Generally we recommend to tag the ways. Ways also include ferries+ 
- so if ferry is not transporting motorcyclesthis can be tagged for the way of the ferry+Construction sites are not always tagged in OSM. If the construction site is only a short-term construction site (less than 6 months), the general opinion is that it's more suitable to tag it as temporary access restriction (see below). If the construction takes longer than 6 months, it could be tagged as permanent access restriction[[https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:construction|See the OSM wiki for more details]]. 
- [[https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access|For more information see the OSM wiki]].+ 
 +==== Temporary or Conditional Access Restrictions ==== 
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 +These can include road closures on the weekend, in the winter, at night, or for a certain period of time. This also includes construction sites shorter than 6 months. Tagging conditional access restrictions, might look a bit complicated at first, but don't worry, it's not that complicated, we will show you a couple of the common examples and it should be easy to extend it for your specific case
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 +Road that is closed for motorcycles on the weekend: ''motorcycle:conditional=no @ (Sa,Su,PH)''\\ 
 +Road that is closed for some time, like construction site: ''motor_vehicle:conditional=no @ (2018 May 22-2018 Oct 7)''\\ 
 +Road that is closed every year, for example in winter:\\ 
 +The fast and generic option is to use ''access:conditional=no @ winter''. For many roads there is no fixed date, usually the road will be closed with the first snow and opened once the snow as removed in spring, so tagging no @ winter is not the worst option, but there is no way to automatically evaluate this.\\ 
 +Some roads usually have close from a certain month to another month, so you could use ''access:conditional=no @ (Nov-Mar)'' for roads that are usually close from November to March. 
 + 
 +There are many more examples in the [[https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Conditional_restrictions|OSM wiki]]. If you are uncertain, let us know in our forum, we are happy to assist you.
  
 ===== Why isn't Kurviger using this Road or Ferry ===== ===== Why isn't Kurviger using this Road or Ferry =====
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 ==== Barriers ==== ==== Barriers ====
  
-Kurviger can access a barrier, like a ''gate'' or a ''lift_gate'' if you add ''access=yes'', if the ''access'' tag is missing, Kurviger will not route through this gate. Kurviger considers ''access'', ''motorcycle'', ''motor_vehicle'', and ''vehicle''. So if a barrier is only accessible for vehicles, but maybe not for pedestrians, you should set ''vehicle=yes'' on the barrier and not the more generic ''access=yes''. Try to be specific, but you don't need to get into too much detail.+Kurviger can access a barrier, like a ''gate'' or a ''lift_gate'' if you add ''access=yes'', if the ''access'' tag is missing, Kurviger will route through this gate, but you might be shown a warning that the gate might be closed. Kurviger considers ''access'', ''motorcycle'', ''motor_vehicle'', and ''vehicle''. So if a barrier is only accessible for vehicles, but maybe not for pedestrians, you should set ''vehicle=yes'' on the barrier and not the more generic ''access=yes''. Try to be specific, but you don't need to get into too much detail.
  
-To easily find these barriers you can use this [[http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/sFP|overpass query]].+To easily find barriers without explicit access values you can use this [[http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/sFP|overpass query]].
  
 ==== Fords ==== ==== Fords ====
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 ===== The Estimated Duration (ETA) seems not correct ===== ===== The Estimated Duration (ETA) seems not correct =====
  
-We try to calculate a realistic ETA based on the available road data. In general our ETAs good enough for a rough orientation. We have seen issues with the ETA if the road data is insufficient. We rely on [[https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxspeed|max speed tags]] and other road information being present to estimate a realistic ETA. If there is not enough data, we try to estimate a realistic ETA, which might not always be possible. If you have seen cases where the ETAs are completely off, please feel free to contact us or to improve the OSM data. Please also be aware that travel times depend on the weather. A wet and muddy dirt road might slow you down considerably.+We try to calculate a realistic ETA based on the available road data. In general our ETAs should be good enough for a rough orientation. However, we have seen issues with the ETA if the road data is insufficient. We rely on [[https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxspeed|max speed tags]] and other road information being present to estimate a realistic ETA. Another relevant tag for ETA calculation is the surface (see the section about unpaved). If there is not enough data, we try to estimate a realistic ETA, which might not always be possible. If you have seen cases where the ETAs are completely off, please feel free to contact us or to improve the OSM data. Please also be aware that travel times depend on the weather. A wet and muddy dirt road might slow you down considerably or might even force you to take an alternative route.
  
 ===== I avoided X but Kurviger still uses a road that is X ===== ===== I avoided X but Kurviger still uses a road that is X =====
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